since at 10km you have ~283mm of armor penetration, you can thus penetrate. In high Tiers if a DD goes anywhere near a cap in the first 5 mins it's a 75%++ chance of death no matter how the DD plays it. You can do the same things with Zao but you will always burn the enemie to hell. [–]speleomaniac 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). As someone who has played an Italian cruiser. (B) In-game screenshots that depict players in a negative light and do not have their usernames edited or blocked out are considered naming and shaming posts and will be removed. 1, Steering gears mod. 335. 71 topics 1,054 posts. The improved concealment helps disengaging if you're between 12km and 13km and places you 1 km closer to enemy DDs, but your guns can murder DDs just as well without being a little closer, and you don't really want to be at 13km from enemy BBs anyway, so I found the extra concealment to be moot. /// NOTICE : This video is intended for a "Mature Audience" only. In SEA there are more CVs in the que than DDs most nights. destroyers) with huge salvos and can do so down to 8.3-10km unspotted from smoke (depending on ship). Apologies, I misunderstood what you were asking for. [–]Zanurath 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). That gives a 6.7s reaction time (better than low-tier German DDs! Spam rules still apply. I´m still not sure the net win at the end wouldn´t at least be equal. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13s6LtFslxFF_p7P7Yu671zlur8Gwc1niAN03wJnDj6U/pubhtml?gid=1887314214&single=true, [–]ShermanatorYTClosed Beta Player[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]engapol123 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (8 children). 3. Vote. Plus, being quite fast and decently nimble makes her more enjoyable when kiting and moving around the map. T8- Veronna- design IX-203, 3x3 203mm guns T9- Torino- fake design, 4x3 203mm guns T10- Milano- 5x3 203mm guns Don't be afraid to get in closer with Brindisi because you can do some truly monstrous things (full clip), [–]BotucalCruiser 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children). For example British and French battleships have full 32mm plating. 11.4k members in the WoWs_Legends community. If you run that on a prem account you can make credits quite well too. Welcome to the largest subreddit dedicated to the Naval Action game World of Warships: Legends! Question. The characteristics of these ships are currently in the balancing stage. [–]Kinetic_Strike¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (11 children). Sometimes between even what they think and what they did (spotting, spaced armor, CV, lolol). I initially played with the extra concealment, but found it rather useless for a reason similar to why people don't fit for concealment on a gunboat DD: You main selling point with the Venezia is the 15 shell SAP salvo (and the occasional nuking of a cruiser with 15 203mm AP shells, but that doesn't happen nearly as often as chunking people for 10k from the flank). Novelty and "alt" accounts designed to bend or break rules will be banned on sight. Venezia is considered the best of the Italian CAs due to her massive 15 SAP salvo. [–]FurryCrew 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children). 3) However, short-fuse AP with decent 203mm AP salvos has "disproportionate" effect on key phases and critical ships (destroyers). Promotional videos and streams that are posted must be in compliance with the Subreddit's promotional content guidelines: (B). It's highest for average experience and destruction ratio. WoWs - Dark . SAP shells detonate on contact provided they pass the bounce check, and they have no minimum arming thickness, therefore there is no way for the shell to be an overpen. Andrea Doria in commission from 1964 - 1992; Caio Duilio in commission from 1964 - 1989; Vittorio Veneto class. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. It's a lot of fun, if you have it, use sansonetti on her since you want to switch ammo asap and often. Iirc, Roma with kirin ichiban is similar in credits as a t9 isn't it? [–]TheLaggyMonster 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (10 children). The inconsistency of SAP is compensated quite well by the high barrel count of Venezia, I regularly slap broadside BBs at range for 10k and around 4-8k when they're angled by hitting the superstructure. With the version 0.8.9., World of Warships will start a new cycle of updates dedicated to the Italian cruisers. Also, a small amount of selection bias, like with PA destroyers, factors in. (B). ), what is the real situation? 10k salvos into a BB isn't uncommon. i might considering it very strong borderline OP, if spreadsheet is your thing venezia is comparable to stalingrad in term of average damage in wows stats website asia server. Take AR on every DD captain build and (silently) thank the CV for improving your DPM straight off the bat.... admittedly this works better on the DDs that play a stealth style than for the French or Russians. [–]ShermanatorYTClosed Beta Player[S] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (13 children), I either spend all my money on the Venezia OR I can get multiple lower tier ships of the Soviet, Japanese and German cruiser lines, which is my biggest decider, [–]SpedwardsRepresenting Aus on NA 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children). and join one of thousands of communities. [–]Airilleach 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). It has the bounce check of AP and then the pen check of HE. Venezia's durability is miles above Brindisi. Posted by. SAP cannot overpen, and it cannot set fires, so you don't have to think about either of those mechanics. It has more HP, gets module slot 6, and generally just feels more comfortable. Ok thanks, I'll look at it. I am 100% sure - if you look at the RM CA release page, the first section is a description of the SAP shells characteristics, and it specifically states SAP cannot overpen. Check out conqueror and Alsace/repub armor if you want to see how much you can damage besides superstructure. [–]TheLaggyMonster 43 points44 points45 points 1 year ago (14 children). 1, Aiming systems mod. List of battleships of Italy; External links. [–]BadDecisonDinoTreaty Cruiser Bruiser 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]Silberkralle87 -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Iâm currently working on the Italian cruisers which I really like any news on getting battleships? At max range with plane your shells even come in at enough of an angle to pen all non-Russian BBs deck armor. If you doubt that the shells act in the way described, feel free to test them and post if there are any findings contrary to our understanding of the mechanics. T10 perm camo cuts service cost by 50% and gives a 20% credit boost. You'll still get nuked by BBs when broadside but it's a lot tougher than the rest of the line. They give it high pen and damage compared to an HE shell to balance it. SAP is basically an HE shell that can't start fires and has a bounce check. Damn, can't get that Captain anymore can you? X-Posts MUST BE MARKED. I finally found a use for the Italian cruisers. We will publish further details in the near future.. Venezia is an excellent ship! Italian Battleshipâ¦ By Wicket_Boomber 1 minute ago; Newcomers' Section. Don't expect them to help you tho. I have no reason to doubt that SAP acts in the way WG has told us it acts. This is in fact, a true representation of Italian capabilities. [–]sovereign007RN CL Radar Mafia 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Please mark leaks with spoiler tags, like this: Smolensk is balanced!. Cruisers have always been a huge upgrades from T9 to T10 though, for whatever reason. This means that if the shell hits the target at less than 75° (0° is broadside, 90° is perpendicular to you), then it will not bounce. [–]ShermanatorYTClosed Beta Player[S] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (3 children), but wouldn't that be because the amount of games in them is low, only real grinders (people who play the game a lot and probably are decent at it) have the Venezia so far, vs ships like Zao, DM etc who have been out for years, [–]nhgrif 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children). Reload is a whole lot more important than range for Venezia. [–]Moggytwo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children). Reason you don't grab extra range? Now to your actual question:.. Venezia is good. Currently T9 Italian Cruisers, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13s6LtFslxFF_p7P7Yu671zlur8Gwc1niAN03wJnDj6U/pubhtml?gid=1887314214&single=true. We're Redditors with a passion for warships, gaming and the World of Warships video game on PC. You do so via [leaky text](#s). QuestionIs Venezia REALLY worth it? So I have been dreading this decision for a while, am 1 game away from having enough XP to get the Venezia, which would be my first T10 in WoWs (which makes me wanna get it) but I just have such absolute hit or miss games in my Brindisi (hate it so much compared to Amalfi) Venezia has same "bad" 17.1km range with 15.7 base spotting, it's a HUGE boat and SAP seems to troll me way too much, I also have a Soviet T8, Japanese T7 and German T6 cruiser that I can all basically progress 1 whole tier with Free XP.. not sure which to get. yes, venezia is really worth it. If you're shooting at something like a Kremlin for example, it has quite a lot of armour that is 60mm, and if you hit that regardless of angle you will do no damage at all. If the shell hits at 80° or more, it will bounce and do no damage. [–]CTFT 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Italian cruisers are about to be fully released in World of Warshipsâ¦ Boy, I wish they werenât coming in that stateâ¦ I didnât enjoy testing the Italian cruisers that I consider as inferior to the other roaming cruisers because their only influence compared to the others â¦ Unless you have a good T10 with a perma camo. 2, but the base reload is too sorry to drop the reload module. Videos. Other Italy CAs get 70-80° ricochet angles. This list may not reflect recent changes (). She has better plating and spaced armour, so she eats a lot less citadels than Brindisi. Want to know how to get early access to Italian cruisers? [–]ShermanatorYTClosed Beta Player[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Thanks for tips, came back to game from 2+ year break so do not have him ;(, [–]hirokie 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). \\\ /// NOTICE : This video is intended for a "Mature Audience" only. Spamming and trolling posts are not welcomed. It's really sad the state of DD play now. You can always grind credits. It's even 4th for plane kills. I'm up to T3 and this is my first cruiser grind. So I have been dreading this decision for a while, am 1 game away from having enough XP to get the Venezia, which would be my first T10 in WoWs (which makes me wanna get it) ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. I've been looking for YouTube reviews and written commentaries for the various cruisers but so â¦ [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Venezia's stats are also better than Colbert (and again, also cheaper/easier to obtain than Colbert). There are a lot of things that can very quickly delete you. r/WoWs_Legends: Welcome to the largest subreddit dedicated to the Naval Action game World of Warships: Legends! Then get the lower tier ships and use flags to generate the funds you need to buy the Venezia. It may be an influencer, and Venezia will settle into a slightly lower rank when it's all said and done... but if it weren't a solid ship, it's unlikely it'd be doing this well, given how easy it actually is to get (compared to other ships in this list). It's usually only 1 DD per side on T8+ now and if there are more than 2 DDs per side you can guarantee more than half of those will be dead within 5 mins. Please make sure to read the Rules â¦ This subreddit is for the PC version of the game. I'm going to argue that the low total number of games alone is not enough of a reason to explain Venezia's good numbers. That Montecuccoli remains one of my favorite ships at Tier IV. 33% health right away from the start. However, there are also about 6.5° of shell arc here as well, so the practical value is slightly less (ship to ship). Low effort memes will be treated as "Off-Topic" posts and may only be posted on Sundays. All of this: you can pen with SAP. Some variations can be made on the 5th slot, with people dropping concealment for steering gears mod. Stalingrad & Yoshino also have pretty low number of total battles played. We are sorry ð: Starting from Tier VI Italian cruisers have 203 mm guns.Italian cruisers are set to join the World of Warships fleet very soon. [–]ShermanatorYTClosed Beta Player[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]YourSATScoreAlways mistaken for the other test score 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (9 children). Moderators reserve the right to ban users or remove posts and comments in regards to intent. Fuse time - 0.030s [obv placeholder/suspect], [–]Moggytwo 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Most of them, yes. If you're not already in possession of him... Ouch. Follow the reddiquette as closely as you can. It's not required but it helps the filter. Finally, British cruisers consist exclusively of light cruisers throughout the line, with quick-firing, mid-caliber guns, generous compliments of torpedoes, and access to consumables that the other nations don't, but are hindered by exceptionally poor armor protection and mediocre anti-aircraft batteries, as well as only being able to fire AP rounds. (A) No posts or comments may ask for, link to, or enable piracy, malicious software, or illicit tools or sites in any shape or form. 1,179 topics 44,530 posts. ... More posts from the WoWs_Legends community. Question. 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